July 1, 2026
Endings And New Beginnings: Why I'm Changing The Show Forever
For almost a decade, Think Unbroken has been the home for healing childhood trauma, featuring over 1,000 episodes and world-class experts such as Gabor Mate, Caroline Leaf, Tom Bilyeu, Lisa Bilyeu, and Leila Hormozi. Now it’s time for a new chapter focused on entrepreneurship, business growth, and radical ownership.
In this episode, I share why I'm permanently stepping away from mental health coaching and what thousands of deep trauma transformations have cost me mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. You'll hear the behind‑the‑scenes story of my identity shift from “childhood trauma coach” to “entrepreneur who has a podcast,” and why I believe building a business is one of the most powerful paths to healing, self‑belief, and freedom.
If you're an entrepreneur, aspiring founder, coach, consultant, content creator, or business owner who is tired of motivation without execution, this episode is for you. I break down what you can expect from the new Unbroken Business Support Group Podcast:
- Weekly episodes on business strategy, marketing, sales, leadership, and money for entrepreneurs and business owners.
- Real “here’s exactly what I did” frameworks to launch, grow, and scale using podcasting, content, and direct‑response marketing.
- Candid conversations with elite entrepreneurs and business leaders about building profitable, resilient companies without losing yourself.
You'll also hear my story of going from a kid from the hood with drug‑addicted parents, no college degree, and a learning disability to building multiple seven‑figure businesses and leading teams across multiple companies — and why I’m convinced you can do it too if you stop saying “one day” and start today.
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- Launch or relaunch a podcast that attracts your ideal clients.
- Turn episodes into leads, offers, and sales.
- Build a content machine that supports a real business, not just downloads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what's up, friends?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while since I've done one of the solo episodes, where it's just you and me without a guest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And today, I want to share a little bit about where I've been at in the journey that is now transpiring and most importantly, what is next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess in a lot of ways, you can say that this episode is a farewell episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a love letter to think on broken podcast and to you as a transition is a bound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the reality for
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[SPEAKER_00]: years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have with my team recorded this episode in these podcasts and given this gift of transformation over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the journey, I've been able to have amazing conversations with some of the most incredible people in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And have always said, if one day I wake up and I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the reality, I love podcasting, I love the interviews, I love the amazing guests, I get to interact with, and it's not that I'm saying goodbye to the podcasting world as much as it's a transition into what's next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's next is my focus on unbroken business support podcast, which is entirely about speaking to entrepreneurs and business owners leaders and executives about how we actually transform our lives and our businesses because I've said this before I believe that it is entrepreneurs and business owners who are going to change the world, it is not school, it is not government, it is not giant corporations, it is us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of like have lived that for decade of coached over 3,000 people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had millions of downloads of this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tens of thousands of people have read my books, which by the way, I'm so incredibly grateful for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally have so much gratitude in me because you guys have changed my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully I've gotten to change your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it is time to say goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's what's actually happening because I want you to understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The goodbye is more of a transition out of what it is we have now with think unbroken podcasts in this conversation about mental health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: into the transition of let's talk about the intersection of the mindset journey, but really get into the practicality of business, sales, marketing, leadership, mission, building service and products for filling the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I happen to actually be as obsessed with business as I am with podcasting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because for 17 years, I've been an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is what the transition looks like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will officially transition into unbroken business support podcast in terms of content and in terms of guests and in terms of what I'm putting out into the world with my solo episodes on October the 7th, which just so happens to be my birthday because I'm a really big fan of, you know, picking dates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just seemed apropos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the interim, we still have amazing guests whose podcasts episode recordings we will be airing between now and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There still will be some of the conversations, a lot of the conversation around mental health and the healing journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I will be integrating more solo content into this podcast around business as we lead up to the transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be a little bit of an overlap of both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things I want to share with you because I'm kind of jumping right into this is that on July 7th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hosting a podcasting for entrepreneurs four day live event, which if you go to unbrokenb-s-g.com slash challenge, you can learn more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's unbroken, like business support group dot com, unbrokenb-s-g dot com slash challenge, you can come and join us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really the first big event that we're doing as I transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to share a little bit of insight behind the why I'm doing this because I think that is actually necessary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday I recorded an episode for this this farewell, this love letter, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I decided that it really wasn't befitting to what I wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was something that felt a little bit off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought to myself last night, well, what is it that felt off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did that not feel
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[SPEAKER_00]: as close to the truth that I wanted to give you as it could be, and as I woke up this morning, I realized the reason why is because it didn't tell you the whole truth, and I've always been a very big proponent, as you know, of sharing all the details no matter how gritty or grimy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the true fat like it's core.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just am tired, the teaching and guiding and coaching and leading in the mental health space for almost a decade has literally worn me out, physically, mentally, emotionally and brought me to this place in my life where I had to make a decision about what's in front of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that decision is, do I continue to do this even though I can serve at a high level and continue to pay this price?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do I make a different decision and go a different direction because I know that it will be more fulfilling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It took me a long time to get to the answer of that and to bring me to this moment of being like, yes, absolutely, let's make the transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of conversations with friends, lots of hard moments with friends and mentors and business leaders and having conversations about, well, what does this look like and why am I doing this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I read Gay Hendrix book The Big Leap for the second time, about a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things gay talks about is this idea of operating in your zone of genius, is being in this place that is ultimately fulfilling where you're not limiting yourself, where you're being to whatever capacity you can be, someone who is at their fullest intent, someone that is at their fullest feeling of truth, someone who is living life in accordance
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I read that book for the second time, I realized I'd been operating probably for the entirety of think on broken this podcast, the coaching, the speaking, the writing books in my zone of expertise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he talks about that operating in your zone of expertise, can really lead to burnout, to struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've shared this on the show over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was so burned out two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was just not even functional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the weight of the stories of the journeys of the things people had been through, by own story-mown healing and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kept thinking to myself,
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[SPEAKER_00]: man, I'm in my zone of expertise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really, really good at helping these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm amazing at showing them the path forward and being a mentor and a guide, but it's not my zone in genius.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I couldn't quite put my finger on what was missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, why am I not operating in the highest level of myself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the thing that I'm missing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the course of the last few weeks between the transition that started happening here and with this and with my team and then also the transition that's happened in my personal life moving to Dallas from living international stepping into so many new beautiful relationships with friends and intimate partner and all of these things and then getting to this moment now the thing that I was like I was just contemplating thinking to myself, I'm not in my zone of genius.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is my zone of genius?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is this place that I live into the highest capacity of me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's always kind of been business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ever since I was a hustler, eight years old, trying to navigate the streets of Indianapolis to being a teenager and selling drugs to survive to starting my first real job at 17 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a sling-in video tape set Hollywood video to becoming a manager of a Wendy's when I was 18 and heading into 19 to go into corporate America making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as a kid with no high school diploma at 21.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kept thinking like, it's always been business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The secret, and I'll share this with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The secret is, I am an entrepreneur who
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a podcaster who happens to be an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't fully owning that through coaching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a lot of ways I was, cause you guys didn't see the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: else funnels, the nurturing sequences, the emails, the technology, the fulfillment, the events, the coaching the stages, the making the offers, like you guys have never seen that in our world, not in its depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen, hey, come to this website and get that or join me for this thing over here, whatever, but I've never
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[SPEAKER_00]: fully dove in to the business and you got to excuse my allergies killing me today, but it was like I'm recording this no matter so apologize and bit stuffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's why I landed with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, okay, well, let's make a transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to keep the new show here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're listening to me on Apple Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, whatever, this stays the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to change it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that in this transition, I'm going to lose some of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's OK. Because you have to go to the place where you feel most served.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would encourage you to stay around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I say that, and I'm a huge proponent of this, I've said this many times over the years, I am just a servant believer in the idea that entrepreneurship and business will require you to grow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to the fullest depth and capacity that you have as a human being and with some of the people that I plan on interviewing and even interviewing again, the Tom Bill used the vision like Yani is the Amy Porterfields, Jenna Kutcher's of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Tim's story, you know, the list goes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My goal in interviewing those people again is to dive deeper into
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there is anything anyone's going to bring to this podcast at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As we move forward, that's going to blow your mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could, but realistically, we're talking about 1,000 episodes, millions of downloads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, on more interested, as we move forward into the new journey about business and entrepreneurship and leadership, because I just see, I see something happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first time since the Industrial Revolution, we are seeing a mass exodus out of the corporate environment, and working for people, and people making the decision to go work for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's the most healthy thing for America right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably for the world as well, but I don't live in the world I live in America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason that I say this is because it requires us as the individual to no longer rely on a system that doesn't work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when I worked for United Healthcare in my 20s and I was making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, the CEO's execs and the boards, those guys were making millions a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'm the one doing all the work down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know Chain of Command and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've a better understanding of business 20 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the beginning, I was like, wait a second, I'm doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for 100 ran, you know, and realized a long time ago, if you can make $50,000 a year working for a company, you can win 1,000% make $50,000 a year working for yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my, my hope in the encouragement here is that you recognize, and maybe you don't want to ever be an entrepreneur or a business owner, but I promise you, if you work for a company, what we plan to deliver to you will help you become more successful in business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because everything is business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought about this numerous times over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is an offer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is a sell inside of the containers of everything that we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some kind of element of business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you do anything in your life on a daily basis that on the other side of taking that action means that you make some kind of money, you will get value in this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not going to be your standard business podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like them to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the more in-depth conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the actual, what, the how, I want to talk about the dark nights, the 11 o'clock set nights, the how do I pay payrolls, the how I pulled myself out of living in my car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even in my own story, I want to talk about how I went from $50,000 in debt, barely surviving to building a seven figure company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never actually talked about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only said that I did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't talked about the process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big part of this is getting into the processes and sharing those stories and journeys from the entrepreneurs and business owners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the really wonderful things that I have been able to bear witness to, and I don't think this is just exclusive to what I'm going to say, but it's very common.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The greatest entrepreneurs in business owners who I've ever interviewed or I've been around all had really, really bad childhoods, generally speaking, most of them, like the, the 90 if 90% of them probably, right, or something really dark that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see a lot of entrepreneurs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know many entrepreneurs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is a blanket statement, but I don't know many entrepreneurs who didn't have a really fucking bad childhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think about this audience in this group, I go, yeah, you know, this is us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's October 7th, you can expect this transition to take place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it has to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I listen to them every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've recorded thousands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a huge proponent of them, especially in the capacity of business and to share what's next, I'm really excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've ever even contemplated starting a podcast, come and join our challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to unbrokenbsg.com slash challenge,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You make it a lot of value out of actually will, it's not May you will because I've done this and I know how to do it, I'm going to teach you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I lose you, just know that I appreciate you coming along for the ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This ride's been hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not gonna lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot of times where I'm exhausted, where I've pushed myself to the brink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's so many emails and texts and messages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: from people over the years who've just been like, thank you for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to honor that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to honor all of the amazing guests who have come on the show because I can't do it alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And their stories have been wildly inspiring to me and I know to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just see the future of this and I just can't continue to have the same conversation anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fulfilling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always said if it ever got there, I'd walk away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so just to give you a little bit more insight into what is in front of me, not only am I a walking away from think and broken podcast as we know it, but I also am walking away from coaching in the mental health space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that also is ending.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to leave behind a legacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never imagined I would leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to leave behind the exponential and compounding effects of my willingness to be uncomfortable a lot and to step into helping people and learn and continue to grow and make mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and see the downstream impact and effect on that generationally on people, especially the people who came into coaching programs, you know, watching their lives change is just like, magnificent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I walk into the next phase, it's really only working with entrepreneurs and business owners, particularly around marketing because I feel like I'm masterful at it to some capacity and branding and understanding that part of life and how you go and serve the person that you once were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and continue to work on the other companies that I own as well because they need my attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I realize like I mentioned just being in the mental health space, it just rain me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I needed some time recharging my battery, so that's why it's been a long time since you've heard from me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: especially in this capacity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So batteries are recharge, team is reinvigorated, dreams are reignited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I see the path that I want to walk moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I expect this to do another thousand episodes here and talk about business and entrepreneurship, leader, sales, marketing, mission, everything business related that you can imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in a more in depth way than other people, I want to know the stories, I want to know the journeys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want you to see what's possible in all of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that said, like I said, there's a bit of a transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some overlap over the next few weeks, but officially as of October 7th, and you probably already saw we change the name of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did that intentionally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We changed the cover of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did that intentionally, but as of October 7th, we will entirely change the content of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That said, just one last time I want you to know how much I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you'll stick around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't, I respect it, I get it because, you know, we're transitioning and it won't be for everyone, but as usual, my friends, take care of yourselves, take care of each other, and until next time, be unbroken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see ya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what's up, friends?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while since I've done one of the solo episodes, where it's just you and me without a guest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And today, I want to share a little bit about where I've been at in the journey that is now transpiring and most importantly, what is next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess in a lot of ways, you can say that this episode is a farewell episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a love letter to think on broken podcast and to you as a transition is a bound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the reality for
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[SPEAKER_00]: years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have with my team recorded this episode in these podcasts and given this gift of transformation over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the journey, I've been able to have amazing conversations with some of the most incredible people in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And have always said, if one day I wake up and I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the reality, I love podcasting, I love the interviews, I love the amazing guests, I get to interact with, and it's not that I'm saying goodbye to the podcasting world as much as it's a transition into what's next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's next is my focus on unbroken business support podcast, which is entirely about speaking to entrepreneurs and business owners leaders and executives about how we actually transform our lives and our businesses because I've said this before I believe that it is entrepreneurs and business owners who are going to change the world, it is not school, it is not government, it is not giant corporations, it is us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of like have lived that for decade of coached over 3,000 people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had millions of downloads of this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tens of thousands of people have read my books, which by the way, I'm so incredibly grateful for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally have so much gratitude in me because you guys have changed my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully I've gotten to change your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it is time to say goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's what's actually happening because I want you to understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The goodbye is more of a transition out of what it is we have now with think unbroken podcasts in this conversation about mental health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: into the transition of let's talk about the intersection of the mindset journey, but really get into the practicality of business, sales, marketing, leadership, mission, building service and products for filling the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I happen to actually be as obsessed with business as I am with podcasting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because for 17 years, I've been an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is what the transition looks like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will officially transition into unbroken business support podcast in terms of content and in terms of guests and in terms of what I'm putting out into the world with my solo episodes on October the 7th, which just so happens to be my birthday because I'm a really big fan of, you know, picking dates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just seemed apropos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the interim, we still have amazing guests whose podcasts episode recordings we will be airing between now and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There still will be some of the conversations, a lot of the conversation around mental health and the healing journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I will be integrating more solo content into this podcast around business as we lead up to the transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be a little bit of an overlap of both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things I want to share with you because I'm kind of jumping right into this is that on July 7th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hosting a podcasting for entrepreneurs four day live event, which if you go to unbrokenb-s-g.com slash challenge, you can learn more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's unbroken, like business support group dot com, unbrokenb-s-g dot com slash challenge, you can come and join us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really the first big event that we're doing as I transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to share a little bit of insight behind the why I'm doing this because I think that is actually necessary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday I recorded an episode for this this farewell, this love letter, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I decided that it really wasn't befitting to what I wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was something that felt a little bit off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought to myself last night, well, what is it that felt off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did that not feel
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[SPEAKER_00]: as close to the truth that I wanted to give you as it could be, and as I woke up this morning, I realized the reason why is because it didn't tell you the whole truth, and I've always been a very big proponent, as you know, of sharing all the details no matter how gritty or grimy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the true fat like it's core.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just am tired, the teaching and guiding and coaching and leading in the mental health space for almost a decade has literally worn me out, physically, mentally, emotionally and brought me to this place in my life where I had to make a decision about what's in front of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that decision is, do I continue to do this even though I can serve at a high level and continue to pay this price?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do I make a different decision and go a different direction because I know that it will be more fulfilling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It took me a long time to get to the answer of that and to bring me to this moment of being like, yes, absolutely, let's make the transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of conversations with friends, lots of hard moments with friends and mentors and business leaders and having conversations about, well, what does this look like and why am I doing this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I read Gay Hendrix book The Big Leap for the second time, about a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things gay talks about is this idea of operating in your zone of genius, is being in this place that is ultimately fulfilling where you're not limiting yourself, where you're being to whatever capacity you can be, someone who is at their fullest intent, someone that is at their fullest feeling of truth, someone who is living life in accordance
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I read that book for the second time, I realized I'd been operating probably for the entirety of think on broken this podcast, the coaching, the speaking, the writing books in my zone of expertise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he talks about that operating in your zone of expertise, can really lead to burnout, to struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've shared this on the show over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was so burned out two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was just not even functional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the weight of the stories of the journeys of the things people had been through, by own story-mown healing and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kept thinking to myself,
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[SPEAKER_00]: man, I'm in my zone of expertise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really, really good at helping these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm amazing at showing them the path forward and being a mentor and a guide, but it's not my zone in genius.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I couldn't quite put my finger on what was missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, why am I not operating in the highest level of myself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the thing that I'm missing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the course of the last few weeks between the transition that started happening here and with this and with my team and then also the transition that's happened in my personal life moving to Dallas from living international stepping into so many new beautiful relationships with friends and intimate partner and all of these things and then getting to this moment now the thing that I was like I was just contemplating thinking to myself, I'm not in my zone of genius.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is my zone of genius?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is this place that I live into the highest capacity of me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's always kind of been business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ever since I was a hustler, eight years old, trying to navigate the streets of Indianapolis to being a teenager and selling drugs to survive to starting my first real job at 17 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a sling-in video tape set Hollywood video to becoming a manager of a Wendy's when I was 18 and heading into 19 to go into corporate America making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as a kid with no high school diploma at 21.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kept thinking like, it's always been business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The secret, and I'll share this with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The secret is, I am an entrepreneur who
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a podcaster who happens to be an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't fully owning that through coaching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a lot of ways I was, cause you guys didn't see the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: else funnels, the nurturing sequences, the emails, the technology, the fulfillment, the events, the coaching the stages, the making the offers, like you guys have never seen that in our world, not in its depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen, hey, come to this website and get that or join me for this thing over here, whatever, but I've never
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[SPEAKER_00]: fully dove in to the business and you got to excuse my allergies killing me today, but it was like I'm recording this no matter so apologize and bit stuffy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's why I landed with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, okay, well, let's make a transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to keep the new show here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're listening to me on Apple Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, whatever, this stays the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to change it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that in this transition, I'm going to lose some of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's OK. Because you have to go to the place where you feel most served.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would encourage you to stay around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I say that, and I'm a huge proponent of this, I've said this many times over the years, I am just a servant believer in the idea that entrepreneurship and business will require you to grow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to the fullest depth and capacity that you have as a human being and with some of the people that I plan on interviewing and even interviewing again, the Tom Bill used the vision like Yani is the Amy Porterfields, Jenna Kutcher's of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Tim's story, you know, the list goes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My goal in interviewing those people again is to dive deeper into
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there is anything anyone's going to bring to this podcast at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As we move forward, that's going to blow your mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could, but realistically, we're talking about 1,000 episodes, millions of downloads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, on more interested, as we move forward into the new journey about business and entrepreneurship and leadership, because I just see, I see something happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first time since the Industrial Revolution, we are seeing a mass exodus out of the corporate environment, and working for people, and people making the decision to go work for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's the most healthy thing for America right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably for the world as well, but I don't live in the world I live in America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason that I say this is because it requires us as the individual to no longer rely on a system that doesn't work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when I worked for United Healthcare in my 20s and I was making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, the CEO's execs and the boards, those guys were making millions a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'm the one doing all the work down here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know Chain of Command and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've a better understanding of business 20 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the beginning, I was like, wait a second, I'm doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for 100 ran, you know, and realized a long time ago, if you can make $50,000 a year working for a company, you can win 1,000% make $50,000 a year working for yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my, my hope in the encouragement here is that you recognize, and maybe you don't want to ever be an entrepreneur or a business owner, but I promise you, if you work for a company, what we plan to deliver to you will help you become more successful in business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because everything is business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought about this numerous times over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is an offer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is a sell inside of the containers of everything that we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some kind of element of business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you do anything in your life on a daily basis that on the other side of taking that action means that you make some kind of money, you will get value in this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not going to be your standard business podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like them to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the more in-depth conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the actual, what, the how, I want to talk about the dark nights, the 11 o'clock set nights, the how do I pay payrolls, the how I pulled myself out of living in my car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even in my own story, I want to talk about how I went from $50,000 in debt, barely surviving to building a seven figure company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never actually talked about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only said that I did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't talked about the process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big part of this is getting into the processes and sharing those stories and journeys from the entrepreneurs and business owners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the really wonderful things that I have been able to bear witness to, and I don't think this is just exclusive to what I'm going to say, but it's very common.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The greatest entrepreneurs in business owners who I've ever interviewed or I've been around all had really, really bad childhoods, generally speaking, most of them, like the, the 90 if 90% of them probably, right, or something really dark that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see a lot of entrepreneurs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know many entrepreneurs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is a blanket statement, but I don't know many entrepreneurs who didn't have a really fucking bad childhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think about this audience in this group, I go, yeah, you know, this is us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's October 7th, you can expect this transition to take place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it has to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I listen to them every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've recorded thousands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a huge proponent of them, especially in the capacity of business and to share what's next, I'm really excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've ever even contemplated starting a podcast, come and join our challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to unbrokenbsg.com slash challenge,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You make it a lot of value out of actually will, it's not May you will because I've done this and I know how to do it, I'm going to teach you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I lose you, just know that I appreciate you coming along for the ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This ride's been hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not gonna lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot of times where I'm exhausted, where I've pushed myself to the brink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's so many emails and texts and messages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: from people over the years who've just been like, thank you for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to honor that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to honor all of the amazing guests who have come on the show because I can't do it alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And their stories have been wildly inspiring to me and I know to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just see the future of this and I just can't continue to have the same conversation anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fulfilling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always said if it ever got there, I'd walk away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so just to give you a little bit more insight into what is in front of me, not only am I a walking away from think and broken podcast as we know it, but I also am walking away from coaching in the mental health space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that also is ending.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to leave behind a legacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never imagined I would leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to leave behind the exponential and compounding effects of my willingness to be uncomfortable a lot and to step into helping people and learn and continue to grow and make mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and see the downstream impact and effect on that generationally on people, especially the people who came into coaching programs, you know, watching their lives change is just like, magnificent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I walk into the next phase, it's really only working with entrepreneurs and business owners, particularly around marketing because I feel like I'm masterful at it to some capacity and branding and understanding that part of life and how you go and serve the person that you once were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and continue to work on the other companies that I own as well because they need my attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I realize like I mentioned just being in the mental health space, it just rain me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I needed some time recharging my battery, so that's why it's been a long time since you've heard from me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: especially in this capacity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So batteries are recharge, team is reinvigorated, dreams are reignited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I see the path that I want to walk moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I expect this to do another thousand episodes here and talk about business and entrepreneurship, leader, sales, marketing, mission, everything business related that you can imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in a more in depth way than other people, I want to know the stories, I want to know the journeys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want you to see what's possible in all of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that said, like I said, there's a bit of a transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some overlap over the next few weeks, but officially as of October 7th, and you probably already saw we change the name of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did that intentionally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We changed the cover of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did that intentionally, but as of October 7th, we will entirely change the content of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That said, just one last time I want you to know how much I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you'll stick around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't, I respect it, I get it because, you know, we're transitioning and it won't be for everyone, but as usual, my friends, take care of yourselves, take care of each other, and until next time, be unbroken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see ya.
