Feb. 23, 2026

How to feel defeated and still not give up.

How to feel defeated and still not give up.
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Most of us lose ourselves in the chaos of life — and the hardest part is remembering who we really are. In this deeply honest conversation, Michael Unbroken takes us on his year of transformation, revealing how stepping back and asking "Who am I now?" unlocked a new level of purpose, vulnerability, and service. If you've ever felt lost, burnt out, or caught in the trap of chasing recognition instead of meaning, this episode will reframe your journey and show you that coming home to yourself is the most powerful act there is.

Michael shares the raw truth about hitting rock bottom, battling guilt, and navigating an identity crisis at 40 — all while gracefully moving through success, trauma, and self-doubt. You'll discover how he shifted from chasing external validation to embracing authentic vulnerability, and how reconnecting with his core purpose reignited his passion for helping others. We break down the importance of knowing your "why" in every step you take, how to avoid the pitfalls of superficial vulnerability, and why investing in yourself is the ultimate act of service.

We delve into practical insights such as the importance of asking tough questions like "What am I really here for?" and how to build a life—and a podcast—that truly aligns with your values. Michael emphasizes that true growth comes from honesty, both with yourself and with those around you, and that the real power lies in showing up fully as you are, without guilt or apology.

This episode is perfect for anyone feeling overwhelmed, questioning their path, or longing to reconnect with their purpose. Whether you're at a crossroads or simply seeking validation that you're not alone in your struggles, Michael's vulnerability and raw storytelling will inspire you to embrace your authentic self and move forward with clarity and courage.

Remember — the journey to being unbreakable starts with remembering who you are.



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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about you guys, but sometimes I feel defeated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like the world is kicking me in my teeth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, at times, it's like, what is all of this for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's because I'm human.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've never, hopefully I've never come across as this person who is somehow not impacted by the experiences of life, because I'm certainly in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the last 18 months, I felt very much so like I have been in this constant space of questioning, of questioning myself of this brand, of this podcast, of existence, of dynamics, of friends, of friendships, of relationships, of money, of health, of every just questioning, everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really interesting because as I turned 40 last year, I'd set this, how do I phrase this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I set this intention that 40 would be a reset.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so interesting because in so many ways it has been, it's required me to move and to shift my energy and to adjust where I'm putting my focus and work and to adjust where I'm putting my focus in romantic relationships and friendships

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[SPEAKER_00]: and everything, even where I'm living, and what I keep coming back to in this space is this constant questioning of like, what am I supposed to be doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, as part of what I do as a coach is help people solve that problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've always said that all coaches should have a coach, because, well, at the end of the day, I also need that guidance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sitting with my coach, this amazing guy who has spoken highly into me over the years, who I would say arguably is the first person to really give me the time of day when I was building this podcast, the first person that I really resonated with because his story was so familiar in similar to mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm having this conversation with him and basically I said, I'm in this identity crisis for lack of a better way to phrase it where I feel like everything about who I am is so different than where I started and I got lost along the way because my intention shifted and maybe I was around people who not that they had ill intent but their intent and their intentions were not

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kept finding myself in these circles and in these relationships and with these people, like this is not serving me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't actually what I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sharing this with him and he said something really wonderful to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, dude, you just have to remember who you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was thinking about that a lot, like, who am I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm who I've decided to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always played this game with myself about choosing who I am, and I can get lost in that too, where I'm just like, I don't know today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I started getting into this conversation with him and I was like, wait a second, why did I start all of this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I go back almost a decade ago and I'm looking at the beginning of thinking broken and I'm looking at living in Portland, Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at my life as kind of the disaster that it was in the moment and I'm looking at the transition to writing books in this show and helping people and all the things that I've come along with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all of this started for one reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to help people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I wanted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to show people, hey, you grew up in a really fucked up environment like me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The world has been against you and yet they're still an opportunity for you to create the life that you've always dreamed of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and if I can do it, and I can help guide you through it, then maybe you can do it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was everything for a very long time, as I built the business, as I coach people, as I podcasted in all of these things, and then there along the way,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got lost a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I got, well, I wasn't about money and it wasn't about fame or any of those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was about intention and I got lost because it is a lot of weight to carry this show to carry the energy of the guests to carry the thousands of people who have walked through my programs over the years, to the small group cochings and one-on-one to carry the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't do something that I should have done, or I should have done it better, I should say, and I should have rested more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the last year and a half was bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was me being like, I'm going to chill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am mentally, emotionally, physically exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've come through on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it's very different now because so many things are not getting my attention to my energy like they once did because I've started walking down this path of being like, well who am I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is it that I choose to be, remember who you are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it has come back to this thing about, well, how do I be of more service?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do I be more vulnerable?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I wrote my words for the year, heading into 2026, I said, I want to be of more service and I want to be more vulnerable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And vulnerable, not in this way that I think can be, how do I phrase this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that a lot of vulnerability in the scope of the world that we live in today is actually fake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fictional vulnerability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I'm going to tell someone a story so that I get an emotional response out of them and it's not really a part of who I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As well, I've always said, when I see people crying on the internet, it just, it rubs me the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it for some people that's probably an outlet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for other people, they're definitely leveraging that to build trust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, I'd rather just tell you stories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather just share what's really happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd rather look at this experience and my connectedness to you about a bond, life sucks sometimes, even on this side of the microphone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where I question where I get lost, where I need to lean into people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm so lucky I have an amazing therapist who I've been with for a decade, basically on speed dial, because like holy shit, it's been a hard go recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on the back side of it, where I'm today, you know, February, very different this year than February last year and where I'm at today is like, man, I am so happy and I am feeling very fulfilled and I feel like my direction and my purpose and the alignment that I wanted really this whole time has come full circle back to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I get a sit here and have conversations with amazing people and I get to share my journey with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to seek a better understanding of who it is that I want to be on the daily basis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to attempt to play this game called be that person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's so many learnings that are in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I realize at 40,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what's so strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At 40, I find it funny that people would pay me to help them at 30 because 40 year old me has so much more experience and understanding about human dynamics and psychology and mental health and navigating the scope of trauma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: then 30 year old me did obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we got a decade of experience that can help people through the most dire some moment of their life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, recently, and a lot of coaching calls that have been having, people are not in a good place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I get to be there with them and be like, okay, let's walk this path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I do that, what I love about getting to do that is it's also me walking through the path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because sometimes I'm sitting with people and it's a direct reflection of their experience and what is happening with them as what is happening with me being whatever it is that it is in the moment that is occurring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm sitting and I'm thinking and I'm having these conversations

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[SPEAKER_00]: intimate partners with whoever it is over the last couple of years, and I just kept feeling lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like what the hell is happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started off with this idea and this plan, I saw it through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote the books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the number one podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was on Billboard's in Times Square.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I helped all these people, and I feel lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and what was so crazy about that feeling of feeling lost is it was so unknown because I hadn't felt that way since I was probably like 26.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was super clear like this is what thing can broken is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm building.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I want to help people do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today, it's still that, but it's different, and it's different because where I see this moment in time is about a deeper and more vulnerable conversation about being of service at a higher level and more importantly about guiding myself and others, particularly those listening to the show or whoever might come across my work, and saying, okay, well, what do we really want?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was reading some in cynics start with why again recently, just skimming it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't reading the whole book and I was like, why, why, why, why, why am I doing this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I doing that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why does this matter?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why does this not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do I need to show up to this place or speak on that stage or do this podcast or whatever the why is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kept going deeper and deeper and deeper into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on top of that, then I started evaluating my values, like, who am I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is this an alignment anymore?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot of changes in my life recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I sit in this space today and in this moment, the one thing I keep thinking about that I keep coming back to, it's like, this is about service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: this podcast, these conversations, the immense amount of work that goes into this show, having a team sitting down, you have no idea how many interviews that I do and pre-interviews on all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if somebody can listen to this and it changes their life, it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I think that where I kind of got lost in this journey is it, and this is just honest because like fuck it, like it just became more so about what I could accomplish and who I could get on unless so about the journey and the stories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, maybe that's part of, you know, recording a thousand episodes of the show, and maybe that's just a part of the nature of the human experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's also me trying to find out how to get more engaged in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's more about looking at who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a multitude of variables.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But today it was like a set because I wanted to have this conversation with you and say, hey, I like I fuck up, too I make mistakes also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that people have been flowing with censorship I know that some days this service of this show is very incredible and helps profoundly shift people's perspective in life and I know other times are like, why the fuck are you interviewing this guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have nothing to do with anything and I'm like, well, I want to talk to them

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm thinking about 2026 and the fact that we are about to release our new season, and some really unbelievable stories and people, and coming into this looking at it differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote, I wrote a note, it's actually over what you can't see it, because it's on my goals list on my wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wrote this note under my business, like how I wanted to treat the

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[SPEAKER_00]: and one of the things that I said is that I only want to work with people I want to work with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that means saying a no saying no to a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having this podcast for as long as I've had it, honestly has given me a lot of pull in the podcast industry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people want to come on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have said no to a lot of people over the years and this year I'm saying no to even more people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of that is in service to you as the audience, part of it is also because I don't want to talk to people just because they want to talk to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is a mistake I made because there's older episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not necessarily going to point anybody out, but there's older episodes of the show where I'm like, yeah, I only want to talk to this fucking person, but they're famous, so let's bring them on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, that serve something, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets you recognition and blah, blah, blah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now as I'm sitting, I'm like, I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I want to do is talk to people I want to talk to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to my listeners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to this community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to this audience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to people who want to be a part of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to talk to people who need help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, there's a lot coming that feels different, but also requires me not to overextend myself as much as I have in the past because I am the first one to tell you, I am wildly guilty of overextending myself to the point of pure fucking exhaustion of being like, I'm going to go help and be of service and all of these things and there's like this immense price to pay for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I don't know what the short future looks like right now, but I know that the long-term future of all of this feels like building a family, building something bigger, being of more service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's always this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People ask me this a lot, and I want to address this, because I think it's really important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: people always ask me like, why do I charge for my services?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If my whole thing is being of service to help people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What one it's about my time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many things that are for free that I've put out into the world, this podcast, you can get my book for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's literally on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's hundreds and hundreds and now thousands of hours of content that I've put out,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's, it's, there's so much free that if you consumed all of the free, my gift to you, this complementary thing, it would change your life, but here's what I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and this is just true, because I experience this too, I don't take anything seriously that I do for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't, like it's just my Nate, like I've got so many free courses and free this and free that that I've never done anything with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you better believe when I pay my coach, the amount of money that I pay him, I show up on time and prepared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I pay my therapist on time and prepared, when I'm paying my team on time and prepared, when I'm investing into everything that has to be invested into to create this life on time and prepared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at this as like getting on an airplane, you buy a ticket to fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going where you want to go if you don't invest in yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And people will look at me and they'll go, well, you should help people for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I've got a life to live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have bills to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, just like any other person in the world, just because I'm a little bit of a public figure, doesn't mean that I'm some rich guy, because I'm certainly not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I were a rich guy, I would still charge you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and here's why because people don't do anything for free stuff and that doesn't mean you can't be a part of the community like we're unworking on reopening a community and just giving a space for people to come in and be connected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that matters I think it's important but if you want to coach with me if you want to get into the groups that is going to require investment and I'm and I have no qualms about that and I don't feel bad about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just want you know, because it just it came top minus thinking about it because people ask a lot because what I want to build and what we're in front of is this thing that hopefully is going to be transformative for even more people I mean you guys know there's been so many people who have walked through the path of of working with me over the years and I am so grateful for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I don't know that I actually ever built this community as effectively as I could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of it is too, just I'm just one person with a small team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can only do what we can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that there's a lot of conversation about what's next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have answers to any of those questions in this moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right now the only thing that I'm focused on is giving you the best podcast experience that you can have is hopefully giving you the space and the tools to walk down this healing journey and and that thing that I'm sitting in right now is like well remember who you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For some of you, I think that that's the place that you're in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you because you've listened to this show for 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you because I am you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you because I know that place of being like, there's something here I've got to touch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to answer the questions, like you actually do have to actually answer the questions about your life and your experience and who you want to be and you have to be able to lean into those and say yeah this is who I am and this is what I want and and be unapologetic about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's one of the places that where that feeling of being lost came from for while for me was feeling like I had to apologize about the success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt a lot of guilt for a while about making it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about not being dead, about not being in prison, about arguably being the most successful person in the history of my family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's objective, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my brother is in my sister and my, you know, other family members have a success in a different way than I do, and I love that for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just mean like monetarily right and and I think that I felt guilty about that and then I felt guilty about the freedom that I was able to create and then I felt guilty about the fact that my childhood best friends are dead, and I'm not and I felt guilty about one of my best friends growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't share his details, but it's not good and I'm over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like cool and flying first class, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt guilty about that and then I realized like you don't have to feel guilty for being you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about loving yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about having big dreams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about making it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about leaving the relationship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about starting the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you gotta just live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to remember who you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the hardest things that we do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you can tap into that life gets so much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast started as like my journal, this open message to the world about my experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, sometimes I probably overshared, sometimes I probably undershared, and sometimes I shared just the right amount.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, when you're at the gas station, you don't really have these anymore, but you just go to the gas station and they had this give a penny, take a penny, have a penny, leave a penny, little jar things, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I'm given a penny, like that's what this show is, but also sometimes I'm taking a penny, and that's what this show is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want you to think about that in terms of your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you're given, sometimes you're taking and that's how it works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel guilty about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to feel bad about the reality of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot is when I walk away from this, whenever I do, because there is a truth that it's weighing on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I said everything there is to say, kind of, right, at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought maybe the show becomes less how to and more my story, this story,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need, you don't need Gabber-Mate on the show again to tell you the fucking three things that you need to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need the Mario bouquets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need the Anna Lemckies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need the Layla Hermosies or whomever that is that has been on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Tim Stories, the Anthony Trucks, the Natalie Dawson's, the Jordan whoever's, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe what you need is more story, maybe what you need is more human experience, not the how too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I've always had a pretty solid mix of the two, but I really want to talk about like this is where I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: this is what rock bottom felt like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what overcoming was, you know, and maybe maybe that all exists already and I'm just looking at it differently because I'm forced for the trees in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, the thing that I want more than anything is I want you to be able to walk away from this and feel like it brought fucking value to your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never set out to make this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me be very clear about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never set out to make think and broken become what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never, ever would have guessed this would become one of the highest rated podcasts in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thought I would interview some of the most amazing people that you could ever interview that we'd have millions of listeners and downloads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was never the fucking intention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The intention was I'm gonna make this podcast and I'm gonna talk about real shit I'm gonna help people to the best of my ability and I think that I did that until I didn't And I'll be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's parts of that where I'm like I did it like I did this was not to the best of my ability But I had it put it out because this is what we do and and maybe there's a recollection happening in that Because I'm sitting with my coach this amazing man and he's like dude remember who you are

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember who this Michael, who this creation is of a man that you have built, remember who he is, and go and be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I want to encourage all of you to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, go and be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That version of you that you were like, this is who I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool, prove it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: prove it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm in right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in this place of watching me go prove it, because I'm doing so many different things and launching different initiatives and working on other businesses where I'm like fucking prove it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said it, go do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that's such a big part of this journey for all of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get to that place where we follow through

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[SPEAKER_00]: That feels like the most important thing that I can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just show up and be me to the best of my ability, the good, the bad, the middle, the in-between the ups and downs left or right, all of it, because it's like, yo, some days I'm like, buck, this is hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, I said, I was going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So put your boots on, walk out there, and go do the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I know that can be really, really difficult, because when you're in the, you're in the pit of your life, and nothing is working, and everything fills against you, and all you can do is put your fist into the wall, and you're like, well, like, somebody please give me a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, nope, you've got to put your boots on and prove it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it sucks until it doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I encourage you to go and embrace that and sit in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then reflect in it and go, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did I learn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did I do right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can I do better?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who can I ask for help?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who can help me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who can I help?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how can I make this vision of myself become my reality?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so as I'm sitting in this moment with you in real time, exercising the demon of self, the thing that I am coming back to is how do I be me again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deeper, more passionate, more vulnerable, more of service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And be okay with the fact that the reality of like, yeah, I might have messed this up for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever this is, some of you have no idea, and you're like, this is the first time I've ever listened to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you're talking about, and some of you have listened for 10 years, and like, I don't know what you're talking about, and it's like, I know what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the experiences, I know the stories, I know the rooms I've been in, I know the times where I was just like, I don't care today because it became so overwhelming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I know the times where I'm like, cool, how do I show up every day as the man that I said I was going to be and lead the people who I said I was going to lead, who choose to walk this path with me and the most efficacious way possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my spill, that's what I got, that's where I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: I may have said a lot of words and said nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea, but at least I got it off my chest and I get a share it with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you that listen and still stand by me and, you know, comment and message and all those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're fucking awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're part of the reason why I do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, at the end of the day, the the biggest thing for me is I'm looking at what's in front of me for this year in this life and this decade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's it, my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take care of yourself, take care of each other, and until next time, be unbroken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see ya.